PJ Black On Vince McMahon’s Reaction to the 450 Splash, Breaking Up With JoJo, Disliking ‘Total Divas’

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Former WWE Tag Team Champion PJ Black, fka Justin Gabriel, was the latest guest on the Pancakes and Powerslams Show. Black, who is recovering from a base jumping injury, gave the status of his recovery, as well as shared his time working in WWE and more.

Here are the highlights:

On what Vince McMahon told him after receiving a 450 splash:

“[I was] a little bit nervous. I’ve done it a million times. It was one of the first moves I learned, [and]I’ve been doing it for so long that I don’t even think about it. That day, standing up there, I kind of thought about it a little bit. People don’t understand how big Vince is, he’s very wide. That age, you can tell he’s a bodybuilder and he’s worked out his whole life. I never really messed that move up except for once in my life.

“This day, I didn’t mess it up, but I got winded so bad because he’s so thick, I didn’t realize. And he was fine. He thanked me afterwards, and he was like, ‘That was great.’”

Why he did not like being on Total Divas, relationship with Jojo:

“I didn’t want to be a part of [Total Divas] at all. They filmed some stuff, and I started talking to Jojo because I thought she was a pretty cool person. I never realized she was so young, I think she was like 18 or 19 at the time. And we kind of went that route [to dating], and they were like, ‘Hey. Do you want to be on the show?’ I was like, ‘Yeah. Sure, what do I have to do?’ They said, ‘nothing, just go on dates,’ and we went on multiple dates. They’d take film (which never aired, by the way; we filmed so many cool things), and I said to the producers, ‘I don’t think I can do this. Like, she’s 19, and I don’t think this is going to work. I’m a 30-year-old man.’ And he was like, ‘Ok. fair enough. Then you have to break up with her on TV.’ And that’s the scene they played.

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“And what they did was make me look like this super womanizing heel, they edited everything to make me look like a bad guy. That’s not what happened at all. A lot of it is real, but it’s about 90 percent scripted. That I just couldn’t deal with. If it’s a reality show, let me do and say whatever I want. Don’t tell me what to say and what to wear. It wasn’t very organic or spontaneous. So, after I broke up with her, I was like, ‘Yeah. I’m outta here.’”

Black also talked about the Corre being a “knock-off group,” information on the new season of Lucha Underground, the Nexus losing to Team WWE at SummerSlam, and more.

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